please comment!

Michael Collins

(Wash. DC) In 2004, we were told to anticipate a red versus blue election. It didn’t turn out that way but that was hardly mentioned.

By 2008, we were told to expect record voter turnout for the presidential election. Now we’re told that the predictions were wrong, the pictures of long lines, massive early voting, and massive registration increases all went to produce just about the same vote total as reported for 2004.

The 2004 vote total was 122 million compared to 105 million in 2000. We’re left with this question. With all the excitement and effort plus a huge funding advantage for Obama, how is it that the voters going to the polls were about equal in number for 2004 and 2008?

See also

http://fraudbusterbob.com/blog/2007/11/22/advocates-2004-vote-want-an-ag-probe/

Thanks DK

He is to be commended for his efforts, even though we didn’t see eye-to-eye on some things.

John

I’m a long time reader of your reporting, first time posting, and a big fan of your work. I’m not trying to hijack your blogpost, but I personally have been somewhat in the middle of this Steven Hertzberg situation. I am not out for revenge against him, but I am curious about his internet activities. He was a prolific poster up until recently at a nutjob website called breakfornews.com. This is a convoluted story for a newbie, and I’m not trying to wear you out. But for someone who is supposed to be non-partisan, I find it funny how Steven astroturfed for Damshroder, most recently for Ron Paul, and how he minimized the 2004 Ohio exit polls.

Also, if one looks at his activities at the website just named{BFN}, one will be scratching their head, wondering if he might be part of an astroturfing company. I feel that I have a good sense of what happened, and how he was outed. Here are a few links to my forum which might help anyone at all interested in this development. While I did inform “John aka sluggo” of this story and had one email correspondence with Bev Harris, I have disassociated myself from supporting their camp- because Bev sold “clinton cigars” back in 1999, and I am also unsure of the full story of bbv.org, the fund raising aspect, etc.. I won’t throw her completely under the bus based on the HBO movie and other info that seems good, but I have completely disassociated myself from “sluggo.”

This is convoluted, but to all interested, I hope it helps.

Proof that Hertzberg was “Navari” at BreakForNews.com.
http://allaircraftarenotinvolved.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=972#972

Big thread on Hertzberg as “Navari” and on the ESI aspect, etc..
http://allaircraftarenotinvolved.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?t=78&start=0

Thanks for your time and consideration,
“a nobody from Massachusetts” M.A., M.Ed.

{p.s.- Please don’t forget about the chemical trails. Peace.}

However, the basis of my post stands. ESI advertised itself as a 501c(3) until this week, but it wasn’t a 501c(3) under SFFCIF for over a year. Therefore, if ESI collected any donations online while it was no longer a 501c(3), it did so under false pretenses.

John

Regardless, this has nothing to do with Bev Harris, and nothing to do with Brunner.

It has everything to do with Hertzberg. Amazingly, the Donate page at Hertzberg’s ESI site was just changed, and now informs visitors that ESI shut down in 2006.

Of course, I already saved the Donate page a few days ago, which continued to claim ESI was a 501c(3) under SFFCIF. I mentioned this above, and to no surprise, I was right.

I cannot help but wonder if anyone donated to ESI since it ceased being a 501c(3) – at least as far back as August 2006, 4 months prior to Hertzberg’s latest election-related postings at the site…also saved, of course.

John

Whacky, disconnected comment from John Dean/SluggoJD above.

His use of others’ and his own website to vent and attempt proliferation of his own conjured-up meanness, and to promote infighting among true election reformers is the height of hypocrisy when so many are working so diligently toward honest elections.

Such savagery stands right up there with Bob and Harvey’s well-described “terror imposed on the election registration process and the error perpetrated in the vote count” as means used by the power-hungry, of all stripes, to break down a humanly decent, democratic society.
It exemplifies both the causes of, and toxic growths from past election manipulations, and must be equally not tolerated.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BevHarrisEnemiesAnalysis/

which he says he setup to “store evidence I’ve collected regarding the “BASHBEV.COM” team of Bev Harris bashers”

Ohioans, under our new SOS Brunner, are trying to improve our election system here, and folks like SluggoJD are simply a destructive force who appears to have little interest in real election reform.

Let’s give Brunner the opportunity to get through the machine testing and see that report. If it’s anything like Bowen’s, we’ll know what we need to do.

My name is John Dean, aka SluggoJD. You may have heard of me, due to my work on exposing Diebold’s Robert Pelletier, aka therealrobp, as well as other stuff I’ve done, mostly behind the scenes.

I don’t know if HTML works here or not, so I will just paste links.

I know that you know that Steven Hertzberg and ESI are dirty. Recently, some folks have tied Hertzberg to the name “Navari,” and his online support for Ron Paul, via ronpaulonline.com. Hertzberg is definitely Navari, and owner of the Ron Paul site, but that’s not why I am writing you.

I, myself, have been looking into other angles on Hertzberg, and I think it’s time to open this up further, and seek help. On his ESI site, Hertzberg continues to claim that ESI is a 501c(3) under the SFFCIF program.

http://www.electionscience.org/about/contact_us_form?subject=Enquiry%20from%20foundation%20or%20other%20donor

And of course, he continues to ask for donations, as a 501c(3).

However, I have discovered via both current links and Internet Archive, that ESI has not been part of SFFCIF’s 501c(3) programs since at least as far back as August 2006.

http://cifunds.org/store/

http://web.archive.org/web/20060823210001/www.cifunds.org/store/

And that means that, if he has collected any donations for election activities since August 2006, he’s done it under false pretenses.

Perhaps you could help move this forward further.

Thanks,

John
SluggoJD at sbcglobal dot net

We have this violence of injustice precipitated on the populace.

It may have well been smashing windows…. it would have done LESS damage to our democracy.

mmmm this just fits.. doesn’t it

an•ar•chism \”a-ner-’ki-zem\ n : the theory that all government is undesirable — an•ar•chist \-kist\ n or adj — an•ar•chis•tic \’a-ner-”kis-tik\ adj

Did you know that the Antioch University Board of Trustees only recently discovered a $10 million dollar “error” had been made in the College’s accounting by the former University CFO? This was the straw that broke the camel’s back; the enrollment downturn from the implementation of the Renewal Commission plan had actually started to turn around, and the annual deficit could have been handled through emergency fundraising. This was announced to the faculty; apparently the previous CFO had been juggling funds to make the College appear more solvent and the Board finance committee did not adequately fulfill its oversight function. I haven’t seen this in press anywhere; needless to say the Chancellor and Board are playing it down. I wonder which Ohio reporter will get this to press first?

ACTION: Write to your Congresspersons and Senators and ask them to frame their Constitutional role as the Framers did. We suggest that you raise the following issues:

The Constitution provides Congress with the power to define the military agenda, including troop re-deployment and the establishment of timetables.

The role of the president is to carry out the agenda defined by Congress.

Congress must continuously assert its Constitutional power and responsibility.

Congress must not give in to the betrayal myth. The president was offered funding with timetables but he turned it down — he is the betrayer.

Congress must frame the matter as an issue of Constitutional authority

Congress must place the safety of the troops directly in the hands of the commander-in-chief, whose job is to carry out the agenda given by Congress, which includes protecting the safety of our troops.

Don’t just write to your Congressperson. Write to the editors of your local newspapers. Flood the email boxes of the television and radio news shows, as well as national magazines. Send this call for action to your email lists. And write to progressive activist organizations like MoveOn, Democracy for America, and so on, to ask their memberships to support this action.

And don’t do it just once. Repetition is the key to success. Keep it up until the next funding vote in September.

Greg Palast, Author of Armed Madhouse, on How Rove May Have Already Stolen the 2008 Election

From Buzzflash

I don’t think, though, that we need to completely throw out electronics from our elections, yet. Computers are very good at faciltating voter interface, at being accessible to those less able, at tallying numbers quickly and efficiently.

As long as we have the backup, the security, and the ability to recount clearly and transparently, and an open faith in the quality and integrity of the product, computers in voting are just fine.

(I point out that in the United States, one voting system company with a good, utilitarian, secure, recountable, accessible product, with software available for review was available under HAVA: AccuPoll. There was no reason why every county in the United States did not buy it two years ago, and there is no reason why we shouldn’t now. I have found no particular dirt on that company, although as a public company they do tend to let “just anyone” invest!)

At any rate, while some folks are advocating only optical scanners (the overwhelming majority are made by the same vendors whose products are causing so much consternation, and which tabulate with the same software as the touch-screen machines use), and while some folks are advocating only 100% hand-counted ballots, I think voters are not yet ready to back off from the computers. We just have to implement the systems appropriately, taking our time to get it right.

In other words, where we find corruption we should be certain to throw out the perpetrators without also tossing the currency. Their wrench may be the dripping murder weapon, but some other wrench will do the job nicely.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013817.php

Karl Rove and GWB

were in Columbus that fateful election day in 2004.

http://tinyurl.com/2xmdy6
http://tinyurl.com/2eclm5

Ohio’s live 2006 election results fed to GOP mirror server
On Election Day, November 7, 2006, ePluribus Media reported on
technology developed for live reporting of election results by the
Secretary of State of Ohio was programmed, hosted, and operated by
companies that are related to the Republican National Committee.

I sent a brief email to Harvey Wasserman this past Sunday describing my situation and his reply yesterday was “intersting stuff…good luck!!!” Out of concern of losing my job, I am trying (for now anyway) to keep my identity private, although I did show Dr. Ross my driver’s license. I can’t send an email to you via this comment, but if you will visit my anonymous blog http://t4tat.blogspot.com, you will see all the details.

I would appreciate any comments or suggestions you might have. I can be emailed at T.FOR.TAT@GMAIL.COM. Thank you. “T”

Nancy Tobi podcast interview with Bob Fitrakis of Ohio’s FreePress,org

From Nanci,
When I was in Ohio early this month, I was interviewed by “Dr. Bob” Fitrakis on the FreePress radio.

Learn why the majority of states in the nation are at risk of running the 2008 elections on illegal voting equipment.

http://tinyurl.com/2rj7mn

OHIO 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in probability study

Defining the vote outcome probabilities of wrong-precinct voting has revealed, in a sample of 166,953 votes (1 of every 34 Ohio votes), the Kerry-Bush margin changes 6.15% when the population is sorted by probable outcomes of wrong-precinct voting.

The Kerry to Bush 6.15% vote-switch differential is seen when the large sample is sorted by probability a Kerry wrong-precinct vote counts for Bush. When the same large voter sample is sorted by the probability Kerry votes count for third-party candidates, Kerry votes are instead equal in both subsets.

Read the revised article with graphs of new findings:

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes

http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

PowerPoint: http://jqjacobs.net/politics/vote_switching.ppt

I voted as a registered Republican in May, 2006 at my correct polling place and precinct without incident. I voted as a Republican only to vote against Ken Blackwell in the primary. I am usually a Democratically leaning independent voter.

I received in Oct, 2006, an official election mailing stating my correct name, address, polling place and precinct number. I showed up to vote on November 07, 2007 with this mailing in hand only to be told I wasn’t registered and needed to fill out a provisional ballot! I told the people at my precinct I had no faith that my provisional ballot would be counted and left without voting!

I went home and made several phone calls to voter hotlines, jounalists and others who told me to go back and vote with the provisional ballot! My story was published by AP in many newspapers and on the radio! One website with this story is http:www. onnnews.com/?sec=&story=sites/onn/content/pool/200611/411468068.html

I went back to my polling place and voted with a provisional ballot!
Several days later, I phoned the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections and asked whether my provisional ballot had been counted! I was told it would take some time to determine whether my ballot had been counted or not.

I was tired of all the run around so I went to my Congressman’s office with all the information and a photocopy of my “official voter’s guide”. A woman from Dennis Kucinich’s office told me she’d look into this matter for me.

Later that day, I received a phone call from Congressman Kucinich’s office stating that yes, my provisional ballot had been counted but I’d need to re-register to vote!

I was glad to hear this news until February 02, 2007 when I received a letter from the League of Woman Voters stating that ” Public records at the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections indicate that you cast a provisional ballot in the General Election held on November 7, 2006. Those records also indicate that your provisonal ballot was not counted because the Cuyahoga Count Board of Elecions did not show you to be a registered voter at the time of the election.”

Needless to say, I’m confused and upset with this news! I can’t help think that my purging from the registered to unregistered ranks was part of some greater maliciousness!! At the very least, my unregistering was clerical and administrative ineptitude but I can’t help but wonder what is going on!!

I contacted the League of Women Voters and Congressman Kucinich’s office yesterday hoping someone can help me sort out whether it’s possible to confirm that my provisional vote was counted or not. I’d also like to know why my vote wasn’t counted if this is the case.

Any comments or suggestions that could help me find out about my provisional ballot would be appreciated. I’d like to know whether others are having problems verifying provisional ballots in Ohio?

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share my electoral frustrations. I’m glad there’s a place to go!

The public was heavily reassured that the bipartisan boards of elections were a solid safeguard for our elections. Not only did this ignore the obvious deadlock at 2 Dems and 2 Reps with Blackwell getting the tiebreaking vote, and even the Dems more or less serving at Blackwell’s pleasure, but as the Cuyahoga convictions prove, ONCE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS ARE COMMITTED to their first-announced results, many of them would rather commit felonies and rig recounts than admit they were wrong, incompetent in finding fraud, or guilty of fraud themselves, or even just risk being in a media fishbowl of scrutiny and publicity for a while. Rigging the recounts looked awfully attractive at that point, and Blackwell winked a lot too.

So, while multi-partisan elections officials who are watching the FIRST count like hawks can be a reliable check and balance, those very same elections officials are at serious risk of being lackadaisacal and unmotivated (at best) and grossly negligent and intentionally criminal (at worst) in terms of mis-executing recount (and “audit”) jobs.

Every “audit” legislation I can think of right now has the government elections officials auditing THEMSELVES. Sheesh. The emperor has no clothes at so many different levels it is simply astounding. And so, in CA like San Diego, they select the “random” precincts through Diebold computers (!) or through dice before the first count is even finished, but in either case, they know before the first count is even finished which 99% of the precincts can be completely faulty or rigged and it won’t be detected.

After the first results are announced, only the public can really do the job as watchdogs because they don’t have a large vested interest like all the elections officials do in their reputation for doing “good work” and in their desire to have a real nice Thanksgiving week with family…

UNOFFICIAL RESULTS IN SEVENTEEN OHIO COUNTIES CANNOT BE RIGHT

TOTAL       7,851,499 4,177,498    53.21%  3,826,829  350,669  8.39%

Ohio electronic election data Mirrored thru RNC IP BLOCK.

Root of Electronic Election fraud in Ohio?

I hope you will gain some power after the election so you can go forward and further with your lawsuits – here’s hoping we can bring the criminals to justice.

Cheers!

Everyone, please go here and sign this petition to be sent to newspapers and congresspersons. We have to scream as one.

The Mexican election was a model for what is coming after Tuesday?
I hope we as HONEST U.S. citizens do not allow this to happen to OUR democracy. OK Folks? It IS happening.

http://www.usalone.com/cgi-bin/petition.cgi?pnum=544

“Therefore, the elections results from Tuesday’s count, can and will be investigated by these same aforementioned citizens. The U.S. Government or the Justice Department have not previously investigated the flawed elections of the past 6 years nor have shown any interest in doing so and are complicit in the actual obstruction of true Justice and aiding and abetting in the theft of Democracy in the U.S.”

All the teetering races can be tipped in the favor of peace if the Bush death machine supporters are associated with the Culture Of Death.

Please let me know, thanks!!

I ask because according to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution:

Amendment XIV

…

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

Seems from what we know about people having their right to vote in MANY ways abridged, Ohio should lose electoral votes. Has anyone considered pursuing this?

As for the state media – what do you think they’re here for? Cover elections completely and honestly? Wow you must be living in the distant past! That era ended in 2000! Now they just print whatever the politicians say – and then only if they’re Republicans who worship at the corporate altar!

Be sure to check out his site and make a donation to help him get publicity at http://www.bobforohio.com !

http://tinyurl.com/mbzfp

right at the end of the clip. it is quick and anouncer stumbles

New York Times

Ohio to Delay Destruction of Presidential Ballots
With paper ballots from the 2004 presidential election in Ohio scheduled to be destroyed next week, the secretary of state in Columbus, under pressure from critics, said yesterday that he would move to delay the destruction at least for several months.

I had a hard time looking any African American in the eye after this had happened. I am ashamed of the deliberate attempt at racial cleansing this administration had shown by their obvious apathy and lack of real attention to the threat before and after this natural disaster.

Ken Blackwell, we hold you accountable for this administration’s actions because it was you that was ultimately responsible for suppressing the vote in Ohio in 2004.

You blatantly obfuscated the process and now, it seems, because of a continued precinct by precinct, county by county review of ballots, handed Bush and the corporate hacks, the keys that did not belong to you.

Don’t you associate yourself with the hacks that murder, rape, and exploit the citizenry of this country and the world?

Yes, you have religion. What religion, I don’t know. Could it be Satan?

http://www.usalone.com/cgi-bin/petition.cgi?pnum=471
The one click form below will send your personal message to all your government representatives selected below, with the subject ” Recall House Speaker Hastert For Interfering With Local Elections” At the same time you can send your personal comments only as a letter to the editor of your nearest local daily newspaper if you like.

also spread this! Please

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0608/S00316.htm

Speaker of the House Nullified
San Diego Congressional Race

i.e. another election result STOLEN

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1163 la New poll shows more than 60% have heard news reports of flaws in new electronic voting equipment. “The 92% support for the public’s right to view vote counting and obtain information about it is a very strong political value of transparency and against secret vote counting outside the observation of the public,” said Paul Lehto, a lawyer and sponsor of the survey. “To put this figure in context, support for election transparency exceeds the support for tax cuts, exceeds the approval of Pres. Bush immediately after 9-11, and virtually all other political values being measured.” Mr. Lehto is counsel in the 50th Congressional District election contest in California.

Ohio Governors race is limited to MSM (mainstream media) exposure
http://fraudbusterbob.com/blog/2006/08/24/two-candidates-do-not-a-dictatorship-make
check the last comment…

So essentially, we have a Corporate Dictatorship, catering to and denying access to anyone outspoken about the truth (both present and historical) and the powers that be.

American naivete, like nostalgia, ain’t what it used to be.

It’s less than 80 days until the election, and neither on this blog or on your campaign website have you expressed your plan on health, job creation, urban renewal, education, making college more affordable, agriculture, crime, or really anything other than your war against President Bush.

And which part of Strickland’s platform makes him sound like a Republican? His plan for universal health care? Or his early childhood education initiative? Or his energy policy to promote more energy efficient and green technologies?

As always, you offer only empty platitudes, name calling, and no ideas of your own. Frankly, I don’t blame you’re exclusion since you have yet to articulate your own platform while you insist on criticizing everyone elses. The only thing you have publicly promised “bringing Ohio’s National Guard troops currently serving in Iraq” Ohio has been revealed to be a disingenious and empty promise.

You aren’t the only candidate running who is against the war, either. Ted Strickland and Sherrod Brown voted agains the war. Strickland has been a vocal critic of the Administration regarding the war. Within the past week, he applauded the federal court’s decision to declare the NSA’s warrantless wiretap program as unconstitutional. So for you to post that it’s not clear where Strickland stand on the war is yet another lie you’ve presented to the Ohio progressive community.

The exposition of how all this election junk pans out in reality and is on CNN video.
http://tinyurl.com/qao5z

Author of Brave New Ballots

News From Underground: Zogby poll: AMERICANS WANT FAIR AND FREE …This Zogby poll was commissioned by Paul Lehto with support from Democracy for New Hampshire, Michael Collins and electionfraudnews.com and other election …

http://tinyurl.com/lp5gg

 From Scoop Independent News

http://tinyurl.com/nfujs

Peace to you all,
another day in the empire,
coyote

http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/node/2425

Instead of working for peace, this administration has sought only war in the guise of the “Christian” ethic. May God have mercy on them.

Persevering against the lies and absolute corruption of the present administration takes more than just passive observation. We as a nation should speak out against this CURRENT ongoing atrocity called the U.S. government.

Did we not learn anything from Jim Jones? The comparison is that a “religious” leader has lead us away from the truth on a grand scale.

Are you sure that $9.75 is the “living wage”? I read over a year ago that it was over $10 an hour then. But you’re right. The $6.85 is a pathetic raise! I’ll vote for it because it’s an increase, but I wish we were voting to adopt a “living wage.”

Ooops – I’m sorry! The GOP is making us safer from all those terrorists Bush has caught! We’re fighting them over there to keep them from over here!

Now I’m back on message!

The other piece of the puzzle, of course, is media exposure. When people are wary of candidates they’ve never heard of, what they mean is that they’ve been conditioned to only trust those who are covered in the news. If every story about Blackwell’s campaign didn’t also mention Strickland, how many people outside his district would know who he is? This is a serious problem for grassroots candidates at all levels, and the media love upholding their end of the catch-22. We need a good way to address this with the gatekeepers in the press, TV, and radio without alienating them completely.

I ask myself many times since his passing, why were we so determined not to heed his advice. So we suffer, and our children are suffering, because we refused to fight for them. We left the fight for Bill Moss, even though the children were ours.

Who is fighting for your children now?

I read the piece on Blackwell in Columbus’ Other Paper and thought the writer did an excellent job in making the point that not all African Americans were against him. When I learned that East Cleveland Mayor Eric Brewer represents a city that’s 94 percent African American, and that he’s a Democrat willing to step forward to support “Brother” Ken, I had to learn more about him.

This guy is no fly by night. On checking, Brother Brewer told me he wants to send Democrats a message that Ted Strickland’s candidacy is a slap in the face to loyal Black Democratic voters. He said the Democratic Party could have pressured Strickland to stay out of the race and ensured a head up competition between Columbus Mayor Mike Coleman and Blackwell. Racist Strickland new that if Blackwell won the primary against Jim Petro and Betty Montgomery, that there were some whites Ohioans who would never vote for a Black candidate. He said Strickland was calculating on picking up the white racist vote and the blind support of Black voters he knew would blindly support him regardless of his hidden motivation for even stepping into the race. He said Strickland supporters showed their disrespect further when he ignored an opportunity to make Cuyahoga County Peter Lawson Jones his running mate, and when he backed another racist, Chris Redfern, for state party chairman. Redfern and his people totally disrespected U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Dayton Mayor Rhine McLin during the state caucus to select another party boss. The pro-Black East Cleveland mayor told me he’s not excited about supporting another white male ticket in a party that does nothing but give lip service to diversity, so he’s going whole hog with Brother Ken to teach them a lesson.

I asked him about whether or not he wants a job with Blackwell’s administration and he laughed and asked me “where did I get that bullshit from?” I told him it came from Fraudbuster Bob’s website and he said, “Who’s fraubuster Bob?”

On the right, mass transit is equated with socialism but they don’t object to funding our highways to the tune of billions of our tax dollars that are wasteful. What is the difference?

Can we smile at someone on the highway or is that considered socialism?

See previous Dr. Fitrakis blog Planes, Trains and Automobiles http://tinyurl.com/kjxhl

Therefore: Wanna teach Intelligent Design in schools, fund philosophy classes.

Want more info?

See http://www.voteKovacs.com

DKK